My Mum’s been dead almost 9 years, my Dad coming up for 24.
When I was a little girl I was very close to my mother and my father was a more distant, often-scary figure. In my early teens, my mother and I were explosively different (or explosively the same, making the explosions even worse!) and he and I became closer. In my later teens and early 20s it changed again, when my next-up sister (I have 5) and I made a massive effort to force our bloke-y Dad to open up more, to tell us how he felt, and the effort actually worked.
He was never comfortable with it, but I can confirm that if you stand in front of a 63-year-old kiwi bloke in 1984 (ideally when your hair is in shades of white, vermillion and peacock blue) and say “I’m not moving until you tell me you love me”, it can be done. I know our efforts to make Dad open up made Mum feel left out – we didn’t intend it that way. Dad died in 1988, I hadn’t seen him since 1986 when I left NZ, and I still regret not thanking him for being great when I came out. Great, in that he behaved as if it was ordinary. For making it a not-big-deal (of course it was a big deal, but his making it not was of great benefit at the time).
I’ve written elsewhere how my parents were not the kind of people who would ‘naturally’ be ok with coming out – ie, they were not liberal, middle class, educated – all those things our society tends to assume will help people be understanding or tolerant. They were working class, poorly educated because they’d had to leave school at 14. Both were born in 1921, children of poverty and the depression, who came of age in 1939 when they were 18 and both served during WW2, my mother in the army, my dad in the RNZAF (he was a PoW in Germany for four years). And yet they were great about the gay. Great. (Moral of that story – never assume you know anyone’s attitude simply because of class/age/gender etc.)
Because I was relatively young when my father died, and because I knew I hadn’t said all I wanted to, and because I then realised that much of what we do in daily life is also about building memories for the future, I made more of an effort with my mother after that. She stayed with us, she went away with us (Paris, Florence, Sienna), she was a good friend to me and also to my wife. We talked a lot. She was heartbroken and terrified when I had cancer, and kind and supportive to Shelley – my Dad had had cancer when he was 36 as well, so she understood how it is to be the partner of the very sick person. And when she died, she was sitting up on the sofa, a shopping list beside her (list included toffees & tobacco), with her hair in curlers, because she and I were going to get her shopping and then out for lunch that day.
So – on Mothering Sunday, when way too many card shops and restaurants and flower sellers and sherry merchants are making money from just another day, I offer you my mother’s phrases of wisdom, phrases I can still hear, in her voice, phrases that mean way more than a Hallmark card ever could :
“Don’t let your jealousy make you rude” – most often employed after someone made a sly comment on another’s good fortune
“You could have gone sooner if you’d asked” – to people who said “I must be off now”
“I saw a lot of it in the army” – on discussing with my sister the possibility of my being gay
and this one, not really a phrase, but anyway :
“Fht!-Fht!-Fht!” – when annoyed with my father, clicking fingers with each “Fht”, and using the “Fht” to stand in for “that other word Stella uses too often”
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Story full of strength and sensitivity. It made me cry and thankful for having my mum still with me. You’re amazing daughter and woman and person..xxx
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thank you Kat x
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You and quite a few others must be amongst the ‘lucky’ ones who’ve had their parents reacting in a positive way to their coming out.
It does indeed not have anything to do with class or whatever. I think there are no standard things that define who and how people will react to something that is new to them. Probably alot is about being preprogrammed and maybe a bit of ignorance.
Let’s all try to honour our parents, not only today, but every single second it is still possible, regardless of the way they judge you. X
P.S. If the photo wasn’t b/w I could have sworn the beautiful woman on it was you 🙂
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Thanks Karen. And yes, I do consider myself fortunate that my parents reaction to my sexuality wasn’t what I’d expected it to be (I certainly had not expected a good reaction from my Dad) – my wife’s experience was very different for many many years (though things are good now). However, I do think we can help ourselves in this, by being honest, by not hiding our truths, by not coming out as if we’re telling people bad news “Mum, Dad, I’ve got something to tell you/I know it’s going to be hard/I’m sorry but …” etc – a negative start that buys into being gay as being a problem is never going to set them up to be fine about things! I also very much think that the more of us who are out and OK about being out (even though society often wants us to find it hard work and therefore it can often be hard work, still, even now, even after all these years for some of us) the more we make it better for those for whom it’s not only difficult but positively dangerous or life-threatening.
And yes too, to honouring them regardless – the beings that brought us into the world are always worth some gratitude! And to keeping on to the very last moment, if that’s what it takes, to create honest and generous relatioships.
Re your ps – that’s very sweet of you, but I’ve never been as finely-figured as my mother!!
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I totally agree with you, only for me and alot of others, I’m afraid we are forced to take certain decisions in life. I personally know that my parents will never understand who I am and so being open to them would cause them an immense amount of pain, I therefore (for the time being) choose to keep my secret to myself and spare them all the shame etc…
I guess the day I’ll bump into that wonderful person, who will turn my life upside down, it will be time to reconsider that decision. It might sound weird, but knowing that there are others, who like me cannot come out, gives me some kind of comfort. It’s just ashame i cannot know who they are, for that same reason 😦 If only we could unite and come forward and change our parents vision…
And yes, we can honour our parents. even if it means we have to keep certain things to ourselves, to protect them from pain. Even if it means having a less honest relationship. I wouldn’t call it dishonest. After all I’m not lying about it… It just never occured to them to ask why I don’t to be with a man…
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oh, I’m sure it’s occurred to them many times to ask. but if you don’t bring it up, they’re going to think you’re too shy/ashamed/embarrassed to mention it. I don’t think it’s up to our parents to be the ones who are ok about our sexuality if we don’t have the ability to mention it ourselves.
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hmmm, we need to talk 🙂 it’s not as simple as that…
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I don’t think it is simple. But I do think it’s incumbent on those of us who live in the countries where being our gay isn’t punishable by death to step up and be honest and open and do our best to make it better, not merely for ourselves, but for the others of us – much younger and much older – who need us to speak out for them. I am also tired of people assuming it’s alright for me to be out and never a problem. Of course it’s still a problem, I live in the same institutionally homophobic world as everyone else, with the same threats and fears. But I truly do believe we collude with those who hate us when we stay silent. And I am tired of being out on behalf of the many others who could, and yet choose not to, step up – leaving other people to make the world better for them. There’s tons more of it here, and in the comments too :
https://stelladuffy.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/get-out/
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I have read the post and comments you referred me to.
I do get your point.
Sadly enough society needs people like you to get others to think about themselves. That’s how society works. We tend to look up or down to people who stand in the limelight for whatever reason. When those people do something which is not ok, like commiting crimes or whatever, it will also be judged upon by the nation. It will be spoken about etc…
Amongst your comments to someone on that post was your surprise that that person couldn’t agree. We cannot always agree on everything. That’s what makes life, life. Every person and every situation is different. And alot can be achieved if we can take up conversation and talk about it.
(Btw, I hope you can cope with my bad english. I am not a native. Was born here, but not raised overhere.)
It is exactly for that reason, I chose to bring up the subject with you. I know it must be hard for anyone to come out to anyone, with something that is not the norm. I never said it was easy. And you are probably going to get annoyed when I say again, I admire all the people who stick out their necks for the ones who are not out. Someone needs to represent the LGBT people for that matter. Do you honestly think, if any Tom, Dick and Harry would try and debate with governments and churches etc., they would be heard? And after all, (sorry, I hope this does not come down too harsh), you get to decide if you want to stand up for any cause. I personally know some people who are well known (not in this country), who choose to stay in the background. They don’t feel they want to draw all this attention because they are gay. They prefer to let the public know what their job is. Entertainment, politics, etc…
Those people feel it will harm them more than others, and I find it is their perfect right to remain silent.
As for my individual story. For obvious reasons I do not wish to clarify it over here. I assure you it is not the common story you are talking about here…
All I can say is, that certain things will never change. And because those things won’t change, there will always be people in my situation.
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And no, we don’t get punished or stoned in this country for being gay, but for some people there is alot at stake. Not everyone is able to risk that…
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Peggy was swelegant XX
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sure was. xx
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How like your mother you look!
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Beautiful memories are priceless. Heather lost her mum (Myra) on January 3rd this year. We spent today laughing and crying about all our sweet memories and all the fantastic things she used to say. I remember once when we were out she kept looking at this rather large lady, when the said lady walked past, Myra took her by the arm and said to her ” you look lovely and slim from the back its only when you turn around that you look big” thinking that this comment would make her feel better about herself!
It sounds like you and you’re mum built some wonderful memories together, keep well.. x.
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Jane – thank you, that’s def a compliment to me!
Jayne – I’m sorry to hear that. well done for the laughing and crying and remembering today. heh, and yes, the ‘loving’ words spoken in kindness that sound awful once they move from head to mouth! all best to you both.
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